Who Died and Made You King?

One of the more troubling things I’ve seen in the music world lately manifests out of nowhere.  It happens whenever I talk to one of my students about reed choices.  Now, if the student is on a decent to good set up I rarely bring up the idea of new equipment (or at least I try to).  But, if the student feels that they’re at an impasse and is interested in trying something new I like to give them all of their options.  I say, “Well there’s these types of Vandoren’s, these types of more boutique reed choices, these types of Rico’s…..” and right there, the student inevitably goes “Rico’s SUCK!!” or “My band director said Rico’s are bad”.  And, inevitably, I start to suffer an aneurism.  More than likely, the student has never tried Rico reeds, ANY Rico reeds.  What is also unfortunate is that a lot of times the person (usually the band director) that gave this student this well-intentioned, but wayward advice ALSO hasn’t tried Rico.  A lot of times, but not always, this is because they were originally a brass player and don’t actually have years of experience playing woodwind instruments.  So, I’m asking the question, who died and made Vandoren the king of all reeds, mouthpieces, and other related music products? Is it because of the number of reed options?

Rico Has: Vandoren Has:
  1. Rico Reeds
  2. Rico Royal
  3. Reserve
  4. Reserve Classic
  5. La Voz
  6. Grand Concert Select
  7. Grand Concert Select Evolution
  8. Mitchell Lurie
  9. Mitchell Premium
  10. Rico Select Jazz (which for years have been known as Rico Jazz Select, but whatever)
  11. Plasticover
  1. Traditional
  2. V12
  3. V16
  4. ZZ
  5. Java
  6. Java Red (A very recent addition versus Rico’s RSJ which always had the filed or unfiled option)
  7. 56 Rue Lepic (Specifically Clarinet)

Is it because of artist endorsements?  To boil it down, Rico seems to have more jazz and a fair amount of Bass Clarinetists while Vandoren more classical and definitely more Clarinetists.

Is it because of reed consistency?  Ask anyone that plays Vandoren and they’ll probably tell you that their reeds aren’t the exact same from reed to reed.  In fact, reeds are inconsistent in every brand.  Some vary more than others, but the brand and sizing are estimates; you’re going to find pure consistency issues with just about any brand.  And, if musicians work on their reeds, does that mean the reed manufacturer is good or does it mean that the musician is a good “reed-tweeker”?

Is it innovation?  Rico has just come out with a huge series of products trying to regain their name.  For example: the Rico Ligature, the Rico Cap (almost a Brilhart mouthpiece cap reissue), the H-Ligature (a throw back of the old Harrison ligatures), and the ReedVitalizer humidity packs.  Even if someone uses Vandoren reeds, a lot of times they’re using a Rico ReedVitalizer along with their reed regiment, NOT a blue Vandoren reed holder with a “humidity control” that makes your reeds moldy.

Is it quality of cane?  I can name at least 5 brands that age their cane longer, use more choice cane, and have higher quality control than Rico or Vandoren (Gonzales, Riggotti, Roberto’s, Alexander, Daniel’s).

Is it because Rico (kind of) doesn’t make mouthpieces?  Well, they certainly have not delved into the world of mouthpieces yet.  However, they do have a neck strap that people tend to like.

I guess my big point here is that I find this debate ridiculous (which is why I ironically continued it on this blog).  You use what works.  If a Rico Grand Concert gets you a better sound than a Vandoren 56 Rue Lepic, fine.  Yes, you can take facts about the reed manufacturing process to help in the selection, but the second that someone uses brand recognition to make that decision for them, they’re not thinking about sound.  And, isn’t sound really all we should care about?

Equipment Matters

For professional musicians and advanced students, this is a fairly obvious statement: equipment matters.  You’ll see a host of jazz, classical, R&B, rock, Latin, etc. musicians all with different equipment and in many different combinations.  For the beginning student, the subject of equipment is rarely discussed even though it is actually fairly simple, plays a major role in the student's overall development and, more importantly, overall enjoyment in playing an instrument.  There are 5 major components of saxophone equipment, all of which I’ll discuss here to save you money in the long run and make sure that you’re getting the most out of the instrument right off the bat. With people that are new to learning an instrument, you might notice that at the beginning there’s this seemingly huge monetary investment.  Reeds, then renting a horn, then a book, then a mouthpiece, then if there’s further interest you need lessons, etc., etc.  It’s overwhelming.  Confused customers can fatten up the cash registers and still not end up with what they need.  There are SO many different pieces of equipment out there claiming to do this, that, and the other it’s difficult to either a) spend ANY money on anything waiting for better information or waiting to be advanced enough to buy something, or, b) leave the store without spending a hundred bucks every visit.

It’s this scenario that plagues parents of new music enthusiasts and stifles students’ growth.  Hopefully, this information will give you a nudge in the right direction.

UPDATE: I've also included a link to Bob Reynolds' site where he talks about equipment.  I completely agree with everything Bob says.  Remember, the info on this page is a basic starting point; there is no piece of equipment that will automatically make you a "saxophone god".  This is a list of reliable and fairly inexpensive materials that should take some of the worry and stresses out of the first few months or first year of learning.  No piece of equipment is going to substitute for hard, sustained work.

Bob's Thoughts on Equipment

Mouthpiece

Don’t overlook a good mouthpiece.  I know, some of these mouthpieces (especially for saxophone) are ridiculously expensive.  There are tons of them and everyone you talk to gives you different information.  The mouthpiece with rental equipment is rarely given a second thought and is, quite frankly, often a PIECE OF JUNK.  I can’t stress that enough.  Starting out on a good mouthpiece is not only going to make learning an instrument easier, it’s going to help with overall long-term development.  Whether your interest is in Jazz or Classical, and if you’re a student in K-12 get a classical mouthpiece FIRST before delving into the world of jazz, there are really only a few options.

  1. Selmer C*
  2. Eugene Rousseau 4R or 5R
    • This mouthpiece is a step up from the C*.  I recommend it ONLY if you’ve tried a C* side by side with a Rousseau and you can pick your favorite.
    • Rousseau Classic Alto Saxophone Mouthpiece Rousseau Classic Tenor Saxophone Mouthpiece

    • The Rousseau brand has a few other types, one of which is the New Classic (NC).  These are a re-release of the type of mouthpiece released before the Classic.  I haven't tried these new versions, however, I have not experienced good things with students or heard many good things in comparison with the Classics or the NC's vintage counterpart.
  3. Jazz Mouthpieces:

Keep in mind these mouthpieces are equipment that most professionals, even jazz and classical ‘superstars’, have either played on or still use for their setup, however, usually with modifications (re-facings), or the vintage versions.  Another disclaimer is that these are just suggestions for starting points.  The jazz mouthpieces listed are fairly 'middle-of-the-road' mouthpieces without a lot of bells and whistles.  This is usually where people start to make sure that they're developing their tone correctly and because these mouthpieces have a handful of sonic possibilities depending on what kind of sound you're going for.  Other mouthpieces to check out: Berg Larsen; Vandoren Optimum, V16, & Java; Jody Jazz; Guardala (the PMS version, but pricey); Morgan; Yanagisawa.

If it were me, I would look at one of the Otto Link 'New Vintage' models on the Sax-ccessories website.  I play an Otto Link New Vintage model.  It has a nice sound, however, if you just get one off the shelf (like I did) it comes with one huge flaw: the tip of the mouthpiece is shaped for a reed type that no longer exists (for shame Otto Link!).  The ones on Sax-ccessories have been hand-faced by one of the highest recommended mouthpiece re-facers in the country.  I feel this is the cheapest and best option for someone looking for their first or second jazz mouthpiece.

Reed

Looking in the stores there can seem like a million different types.  This is even easier than mouthpieces: Classical, check out Vandoren Size 2 – 3, LaVoz Mediums, Hemke 2-3 (Vandoren’s are usually preferred, pretty much based on some random popularity contest that happened way back when at some point, but pick whichever YOU like best).  Jazz, look at Vandoren Java 2 – 3, Rico Jazz Select 2M – 3H, or Vandoren ZZ’s 2 – 3.  And, yes contrary to popular opinion, Rico reeds are a fine.  There is no right or wrong, there's just what sounds good.  Obviously, there are a ton of other choices out there.  You’ll have to find what you’re comfortable with as you go along; these are just some starting points.  If you’re interested in upgrading from these, check out Roberto’s Reeds or Alexander Reeds (DC, NY, Superial, Classique).  I’ve played/play both and while they’re more expensive, virtually each reed out of the box plays (compared to 4-6 out of 10 with Vandoren).  Other brands that I've heard great things about but haven't tried: Rigotti Gold, Grand Concert Select, & Daniel's.

Ligature

This is a point of contention between the band community and myself.  Your band director may recommend a Rovner ligature.  PLEASE, for the love of all that is holy, don’t start using this ligature until you’ve played on your regular brass ligature that comes with the horn.  I know this seems odd not to move to something more expensive, but leather ligatures tend to stifle vibration in the reed.  And, it’s vibration in the reed and to learn to control the vibration that is of the upmost importance to tone on single reed instruments.  While it may make the sax section play quieter in band, it is detrimental to the long-term development of playing saxophone.  Learning to play at different dynamic (volume) levels is part of learning an instrument.  The Rovner ligatures are good, I’ve played on them, most people I know have played on them, but we moved on to something better or use it for the exact sonic properties that it achieves.

Also, make sure that the el-cheapo brass ligature fits ‘correctly’.  If the ligature is placed on the mouthpiece where it sits in the middle of the skin part of the reed and it is too loose after tightening the screws all the way, or requires the screws to be hanging on by one thread, then it’s not the right size.  This is a $2 fix at any music store and will make set-up/tear down much easier.

Neck Strap

This particular piece of equipment is based on personal preference, but will save you some pain and some time.  Find something that will securely hold the horn, that’s comfortable, and easily adjustable.  Here are four things to look for in your decision on the right strap:

  1. Connection – Metal Hook coated with heavy-duty rubber:  Plastic hooks have a tendency to break at any time.  Avoid this by using a strap that has a metal hook.  But, make sure that the hook is coated in a durable material, usually some type of rubber.  If there’s no coating you risk scraping up the part of your horn surrounding the loop.  Some people will tell you "Don't buy one that has an open hook!"  Well, from a woodwind doubling stand point, you just don't always have time to unclasp.  If you're putting the open hook in the CORRECT way, you probably won't encounter this very much.  However, I get the argument.
  2. Shoulders or Neck?: Check out what part of the body the strap sits.  Some sit on the back of the neck, others rest more on the shoulders/Traps.  The ones resting on your Trapezius muscles, in my opinion, are more comfortable.  The weight is distributed over more surface area of the body and over a more secure part of your body.
  3. Padding – How much is too much?: You are eventually going to want SOME padding.  However, some straps (somewhat revised in recent years) have rigged up a rubbery material that sits on the back of your neck but is so elastic that the horn actually bounces like a bungee jumper.  Others take a regular nylon strap and throw a 10-pound cotton pad around the portion that sits around your neck and bulges everywhere while being worn.  This is TOO MUCH PADDING.  You want some padding that’s going to make this god-awful contraption feel somewhat ok, but anything that is bulky, looks too weird, is difficult to maneuver, or doesn’t keep the horn in a secure, steady location, is not going to be ideal.  Trust me, I probably spend 10% of a student’s lesson time EVERY lesson waiting while they fight and tussle with a less than ideal strap.
  4. Cord:  I mentioned before about the nylon strap.  This is usually a ¾ - 1” wide piece of nylon that acts as the main harness material.  Shy away from these.  They may have come free with the horn, but they have no business around your neck.  They hurt and, especially for younger students, are impossible to adjust correctly.  This adds to the wasted time that accrues fiddling with a neck strap.
  5. Length: Probably the most important point here is that the strap be a good length.  Follow the sizing instructions that come with every neck strap (Alto/Soprano, Tenor/Bari, some are labeled Tenor/Alto).  You want to be able to raise the neck strap to the proper height without it feeling like a neck tie that's trying to strangle you as you play.

Here are some suggestions:

Last, and surprisingly pretty much least, The Horn:

While this is a huge part of learning an instrument and eventually you will want to upgrade, most horns that are in good playing condition are going to be fine to begin learning on.  If you spend the effort looking for the four previous items, the horn isn’t going to be as big of a factor as you might think.  There are a couple of tips I can give you, though.

  1. Have it adjusted: You may not want to hear this, but it’s been my experience that some stores renting instruments will rent about whatever horn in WHATEVER CONDITION.  Some of the places I’ve taught have actually tried/wanted to rent a student an instrument that I’ve told them does not work, but were just going to advise them to get the insurance rather than fixing the aforementioned instrument before it could be used in the rental pool.  Of course, you’re going to want to get insurance on the horn especially if you’re renting for a young beginner.  You never know what can happen.  But, have it tested by someone you trust before renting.  Also, get the insurance and if something doesn’t work have them fix it, even if it’s something minor (e.g. screws missing, corks/felts missing, minor leaks, etc.)
  2. Don’t mess with adjustment screws:  You know those screws on the side of the horn that don’t seem to screw anything down, and they kind of look like they’re not screwed in all the way, right?  DO NOT TOUCH THOSE!  Those are called adjustment screws.  It can turn your average saxophone into a terrible intonation and leaking nightmare if you don’t know what you’re doing.  This is something to leave up to a tech to make sure everything seals and is in tune.
  3. Palm Keys & Side Keys: Horn manufacturing has changed since my days of playing on my student model Yamaha.  One thing in particular that pains me to no end and causes so much grief with students is the set up of the palm keys.  These are the keys that you access with the palm of your left hand (the three tear drop looking ones). Manufacturers have seen professionals like myself add risers to some or all of these keys closing the distance between these keys and an ADULT’s hand.  Well, they think they’re pretty clever and have started manufacturing these keys with a greater distance from the horn body.  They almost fit an adult’s hand, but if you’re a young person whose hand can barely grab an apple, these keys have to be the DUMBEST things created.  Students have trouble with this because this added height puts the rest of their hand out of position for the keys for their first, second, and third fingers – the MAIN keys for your left hand.  And, since these keys force people to bend their wrist while playing (did someone say risk for Carpal-Tunnel?), it affects the ability to access the left hand pinky keys.  The placement of the side keys (next to your right hand, look like small rectangles) is another difficulty in beginning saxophone technique.  Manufacturers have designed these, for some reason, to be higher on student horns than on professional model horns - I don't know why.  This is going to hinder correct usage of alternate fingerings (side C, side Bb), notes in the upper register (high E & F), and notes in the altissimo (fingerings depend on the horn - however this is something that you may not deal with much or at all as a beginning saxophone student).  Realize that as you upgrade horns, this won’t be as much of a problem.  However, keep an eye on your left hand and wrist.  If your wrist is bent, up, down, side-to-side, whatever, the horn may not be the best fit.  Try and find one with as little height skewing as possible.  If your horn isn't quite right and there's no way to trade it out, don't fret.

Plenty of people, including myself, have learned to play saxophone on less than stellar equipment.  As with most musical concepts, the work is largely in the hands of the player.  If you put in earnest time, explore the possibilities of music, and most importantly make sure you enjoy playing, you'll find your way through.  And, never be afraid to ask questions of many different people, both piers, teachers, and mentors.  Everyone has a different take on things, equipment especially, so make sure you listen to everyone's opinion, try out different things, and find what's right for you.  Be wary of information coming from anyone who "know's the mouthpiece for you", but you're better off listening to 100% of suggestions and getting 5% bad information rather than dismissing any and all opinions.

If anyone has any thoughts on equipment (and I know you do), throw them down in the comment box.

Artists' Set Ups

So, I was looking around for certain players' set-ups recently and was having to hunt more than I thought I should.  A lot of the more modern players' set-ups, unless they're endorsed by a particular mouthpiece or reed company, were really difficult to piece together.  Theo Wanne has an excellent set up chart on his website.  I took some of my information from that, some from hunting and pecking around SOTW and some other forums, and added a few of the younger guys that I was interested in learning about.  This is a chart of saxophonists' set ups broken down into instrument, horn, mouthpiece, reed, & ligature.  As you can probably tell, there are some artists missing.  But, I've tried to provide as much information on each artist as possible.  The list is organized to read reverse chronologically, where the most recent set up is first.  I also include their clarinet, flute, bass clarinet set ups as well where applicable.  If there's anyone you guys would like to know about that's not on the list already, leave me a comment and I'll try and fill them in as soon as I can. Click the thumbnail below for a larger version.

My Effects Rig

While my effects rig is still a work in progress, I've gotten some comments, e-mails, and phone calls asking what effects I use or recommend.  I've got a couple of images here that shows what I'm using and the way I put signal through each of these pedals.  I'll soon be posting some videos displaying what each of these pedals do, some tricks and settings I like to use, and some things to look out for.  But, for now, take a look at what I'm currently working with (full list below pictures):

Current Effects

  • AMT Wi5 Microphone
  • Digitech HarmonyMan
  • ElectroHarmonix Q Tron+ Envelope Filter
  • Boss DS-1 Distortion
  • Moogerfooger MF-102 Ring Modulator
  • Digitech TimeBender

Previous Effects

  • Digitech Vocal 300
  • Dunlop Cry Baby Wah

Effects Rig - Jeff Coffin

JeffCoffin - Effects01Unlike a lot of artists, Jeff Coffin actually has his effects listed on his website under the section titled "Gear".  But, I thought it wouldn't hurt to put it up and provide some links to some of the things he's using and talking about.

Microphones

Effects Chain

  • PreSonus Blue Tube DP Pre Amp
  • Shure Wireless Unit - not sure which model.  However, DPA microphones claim that the DPA 4099S is compatible with almost any model wireless receiver.
  • Electro-Harmonix Q-Tron: The Q-Tron is an envelope filter.  This is how Jeff achieves the funk-laiden Wah effect. One thing I didn't see on the Q-Tron was a "sensitivity" or "response" knob.  What this does is affect the swell of the effect based on dynamic level.  What that means for horn players is that your articulation can control the tonal range of the pedal i.e. how drastic the "wah" sound.  This may just be an oversight on his website, but it's my understanding that most horn players (myself included) will opt for a pedal that reacts to your articulation rather than having a preset range.  While I haven't tried either of these pedals personally, Electro-Harmonix has a related pedal named the Q-Tron Plus with this option.
  • Eventide Eclipse: This is a rack mounted multi-effects processor and it's what Jeff uses for his harmonizer and assorted other effects.  This has around 100 preset effects and, due to the dual routing configurations, you can combine any two effects.  This is a really nice effects unit and in all my reading about people's rigs, Eventide is a great option for saxophonists and horn players in general.  This doesn't come without a price though.  These run around $2,000, so unless you already have an idea of the type of set up you like and the types of effects that you use, it would be difficult to go out and start with this unit.  If you're looking for a harmonizer that will play more than one note at a time, without selling a kidney, check out a Digitech HarmonyMan.  I was told when I bought mine that Digitech unfortunately discontinued them very recently.  However, it's still up on their website so keep your fingers crossed. Stay tuned as well, I should have a video up with some examples of what this pedal sounds like on Sax.
  • Rolls Midi Buddy Footswitch: Used to switch effects programs on the Eventide.

It looks like Jeff also uses a Line 6 DL4 Delay Modulator, which anyone who's worked with this will tell you is a GREAT pedal.  Keep in mind that Digitech has also come out with the DL4's competitor, the Digitech TimeBender, which (from my reading) is converting a lot of people from their Line6.

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